The Crazy Secrets Of Internet Cam Girls ( written by an actual camgirl)

The Crazy Secrets Of Internet Cam Girls ( written by an actual camgirl)

I came across an article that had written about the camming industry and I wanted to give my personal feedback on this piece of writing as well as some factual info and personal experience to further discuss the
“The Crazy Secrets Of Internet Cam Girls”

This is the original article: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/09/the-crazy-secrets-of-internet-cam-girls-nsfw/

I won’t comment on everything this article says but I will focus on certain things:
The opening paragraph of the article mentions two things:
“1. Camgirls are raking in easy money”
“2. Camgirls are taking their clothes off out of desperation”

First of all camming has great potential, however just like any competitive business it’s the furthest thing from easy money. I am basing my facts on myfreecams because I haven’t had any first hand experience with other sites, however myfreecams is also one of the most popular camming sites and also the most lucrative when it comes to earning potential.
Myfreecams assigns models a score, which is a ranking system based on their earnings over a certain period of time.
The myfreecams wiki says that the median score is 600. Mycamgirl.net states there are almost 40 000 active models on myfreecams. That means that half of the models have a score lower that 600 points. If you are curious to know how much that converts to real dollars, it means that half of the cammodels are making less than $12/h.
This further shows how competitive the industry is and just because someone is willing to remove their clothes they certainly won’t be rolling in money. Also there is this popular belief, that a girl has to do extreme hard core things on cam to make money. This is wrong!
Not that doing hardcore is wrong, but it has very little to do with how much money a camgirl will make in the long term.
The main reason why camming is so lucrative, it’s not because of it’s pornographic nature, but because of the social community. If it was all about porn, members wouldn’t be paying camgirls, because as we all know, porn is easyly available for FREE.
If you look at some of the most popular camgirls on MFC (myfreecams), they almost all have one thing in common; they have a strong fanbase and have created a very dynamic social environment. If they chose to get naked and do shows it’s just a bonus, but I don’t think it’s a main concern for some of their dedicated fans. As you can see, I don’t call them customers. MFC is slowly producing mini social media celebrities that try to please and appeal to their fans as a whole. As camming becomes more popular and more mainstream, the size of these mini celebrities will grow as their fanbase gets bigger.

Talking about removing clothes: apparently us “camgirls” are doing this out of “desperation”. I have had the pleasure to speak with hundreds of women that work as camgirls, I didn’t hear a single one that felt like she had to do it out of desperation. Most were pretty proud of their work, they enjoyed the flexibility camming gave them and also the control they have to chose what kinds of things they will and they won’t do on cam. That’s right, just because you are a camgirl, that doesn’t mean you are forced to shove 10 dildos up your ass. Some women might enjoy that, not my thing but they have the right to express themselves however they wish on cam, and if they enjoy true hard core action kudos to them, It’s their right to do however they please with their body, just like a nonnude camgirl has the right to stay clothed and do what she enjoys in her room.
The truth is that humans are all different. Camgirls are humans and the styles will vary. Showing your body is not desperation, it takes courage and an amazing level of confidence for any woman to do it in front of thousand of people.
Personally, I think everyone has the right to chose what makes them feel fullfilled in their life, away from society’s stigma. According to Stack, S. (2001), Occupation and Suicide. Social Science Quarterly, volume 82, Dentists are 5.45 times more likely to commit suicide more than the average person. Just because being a dentist is regarded as an “admirable” job, it doesn’t mean people in those jobs are living the dream and enjoying life to their full potential.
Ironically most articles written by the media always portray industries like camming and camgirls as sad people that need to be saved. Dear media, there will always be people feeling miserable with their jobs, whether they are a CEO of a multimillion industry, a doctor, a dentist, an actor, a camgirl, a pornstar, and the list goes on. Stigmatizing an industry just because a part of it involves sexuality is WRONG! There is not enough proof that MOST people in this industry are suffering. Happiness is a state of mind, has very little to do with how much money you have, what house you live in, what car you drive or what industry you work in.

A lot of the camgirls that I have talked to, had professional careers, some could have probably made 6 figures working in a vanilla job, however they chose camming because it simply gives them more fulfillment.
Even before I was a camgirl, I was a successful woman. I possess skills and education in other more traditional fields, but I never experienced the level of confidence and happiness in those fields to the degree I experienced it with camming.
When I started webcamming, I made $4 my first day. Money wasn’t great, but I enjoyed it so much that I kept going to become the camgirl I am today. Even if I was offered another job that had a more traditional, but made the same money as camming, I would NOT change what I do. Even if tomorrow I won the lottery and I had a couple of millions of dollars in my account, I would still be camming. This is my passion!

Someone might say that maybe my case is not the norm. Maybe not, however, there are many cases like mine that the media never or rarely talks about. Because well, who wants to hear about a happy camgirl, That kind of news simply does not go hand in hand with what most of today’s society expects to read.

Some of you might argue that the reality of camming is a very different one in the Eastern world, where a large number of camgirls work for studios.

The article I mentioned above interviewed MilaMilan, who is an ex MFC top Model:

” This kind of money and naked fame is the rarest exception for a camgirl. The rest of the many thousands struggle to make any money at all under what appear to be demeaning, even dangerous conditions. After eight years of observation, Mila says, straight up, that camming is a criminal business on an international scale”

“Cam sites are ideal for laundering. The studios are being used to have girls online accepting a financed hand that uses ‘dirty’ money to buy the private time. The studio gets paid for the private session, the girl gets her (very small) part and so the money comes back clean,” Mila says

The article mentions there are “demeaning and dangerous” conditions the rest of the camgirls are in but they fail to give any proof. I don’t personally know Mila Milan so this is not a personal attack to her, however she was one of the models arrested in Thailand for possession of drugs and operating an illegal webcamming studio. She was terminated by myfreecams, served jail time and also the site started a new rule not allowing any models from Thailand to stream.
Another section of myfreecams, had a separate section for Asian models was closed before the Mila Milan scandal became public. Money laundering is a problem that happens in any business, not just the camworld. Anyone remembers the HSBC scandal.
The truth is that the camsites itself don’t want to encourage criminal behavior. They are legal businesses and they have limitations on how much money a new member can spend. I have also heard that they require identification from members that decided to purchase large amounts of tokens.

Leaving Asia behind we move on to a different part of the world, Eastern Europe, where webcam studios that take a percentage of a girl’s earnings are popular options.
An Eastern European model named Kristy writes on the AmberCutie forum (a popular camming forum) why she chose to work for a studio and not be independent.

“Because it is simple and easy for every girl.
When I first started camming in 2007 I think, I used to live with 3 other girls in an apartment. So, really not possible to work from home. Plus studios have all of these nice offers and they kind of wink at you, luring you. Most of them offer a bonus and well, if you get to earn pretty well you can also negociate your income percentage, but you have to be smart about it. We have all we need there, fast internet, computers, rooms already decorated ( though most of them are the same and it gets sooooo boring at some point). In short, all the conditions you would need just to work. And it is considered to be a normal job, even tho no one else knows it because we don’t go screaming loud we are camgirls, people still don’t know what this implies and we are being called names. We all lie about what we do for a living.
Anyway, working from a studio makes us look ‘normal’, we go to ‘work’ every day and it’s just ok like that.”

She also further states that “I work in a studio and no one is making me do stuff to get members, it’s about my integrity after all, and besides, nobody is making the girls do anything that they do not want or feel like doing.
That is what actually annoys me.. the spreading of these words.
It really gets frustrating at some point”

Another Romanian model named Sia explains why she chose to work for a studio:
“To be honest I started there to learn how to make accounts 😀 I didn’t like the idea to give them 50% from my income but I had to. Second thing: the internet connection in a studio it’s pretty fast (it can sustain 10 sites per PC), and I was thinking (before quitting)”what if my internet wont be able to do that? OH Screw this! I’ll do it anyway”. And I saved money for few months to buy a laptop and for rent… and VOILA! Here I am!

Best decision EVER!”

It sounds like these women are pretty happy with their decisions and the “horrible conditions” everyone seems to associate with studios aren’t as bad as most people think.
I am sure there are bad studios that probably do have bad working conditions and might not respect their models, however it seems like Eastern girls do have a choice and there are a selection of studios they can choose to work for.

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16 thoughts on “The Crazy Secrets Of Internet Cam Girls ( written by an actual camgirl)

  1. About the porn? Maybe for the casual user. As you said, porn is freely available on the internet. It’s about the interaction and the performer charisma and abilities. There is another thing the best performers in myfreecams have in common (including you). They have a contagious, spontaneous smile. That’s way more attractive than any fake moaning in freely available porn.

  2. Hi i am a New canner on mfc and I know that you are too much busy with your life and your work but I just want to say to you 2 thing:
    1- you are the best on mfc, you are not rude , gentle and with a very powerful soul!!
    2- I want no ask your help, if you request money for it or token there is no problem but I really need a teacher for my camera!
    Please please please left me know that you will be able to help me thanks

  3. Regardless of how you want to look at it, Myfreecams IS a porn site. The owner of the site explicitly says so. The conventions they exhibit at, are PORN conventions. If you are embarrassed about working in porn that is your own personal hang up you will have to get over it. You certainly have no problem going on and on about how much money you are making on online forums. I feel bad for anyone who feels ashamed of what they do, no matter how wealthy they are.

    1. MFC clearly states they are not a porn site. Read their wiki. I have nothing against porn, I actually enjoy some of it, but I don’t think you understand what porn really is. In porn you need to have sex in one way or the other. There’s no actual sex (genitals exposed or depiction of sexual activity such as intercourse or masturbation) in my room, not because I am against it but it’s not how I entertain. A camgirl makes money by entertaining people and accumulating a crowd, some choose to do sex things, some don’t and some mix them up. That’s the beauty of camming. You can do whatever you want as long as it’s not against the rules. For MFC I guess as long as you have no men on cam you are good for the most part. I don’t know where these online forums you speak of are…
      And I have no shame at all about what I do. Actually I really enjoy it and I’m proud and happy to have found something that makes me happy.

      1. Does MFC ask visitors if they are 18 or over? If not a porn site, then it would at least be considered an adult site which to most people is synonymous with porn.

  4. This is a well thought out posting. I have a few comments on the general subject:

    1. With respect to the term ‘porn’. US Supreme Court Judge Potter Stewart said: I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [hard-core pornography]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.
    Porn is just a label. And MFC is not that.

    2. In Eastern Europe the economics are compelling. Income per capita in Romania is a fraction of that in the US. In the US and Western Europe, a university graduate in a STEM subject (Science/Math/Engineering) can make more in an entry level job than all but the top MFC models.

    3. Intimacy. People in the United States are anything but starving in a literal sense. Just the opposite. But people are starving for intimacy. And no, the cam experience isn’t true love. For a man, being connected to an attractive, naked woman electronically feels intimate. It is intimate. Men come for sex and stay if they get what desire. Even if they aren’t consciously aware of it.

    A surprisingly large number of men are very protective of models. Some have a strong urge to have someone to care for. Or even more commonly, men spend a lot of effort ‘seducing’ models — which is unnecessary, since only tokens are necessary. Maybe it is because they want a little piece of their heart.

    4. Technology. It is clearly ‘disruptive’ technology. Similar to Uber and AirBnB, the firm provides a basic structure, a payment system, and software — and the service provider interacts directly with the customer. The traditional gatekeepers of commercial sex (brothels, film producers, corrupt officials, pimps, &c) are disintermediated.

  5. Hi Kick
    I don’t know if those figures are right about how many cam girls are on line on MFC. The most I’ve seen was about 1700. So given girls log in and out at different times I warrant their would substantial more. But I’ve been on at various times of day and can see a figure on the site telling how many models are on at any given time. I’d estimate the figure to be more around 6000 at most not 40,000. Unless MFC is hiding actual figures somehow.
    There’s also the Model on that won recently claiming working on their is a 1.4 million investment she will retire from at 32. But she’s only been there 7 months and claims she is already thinking of writing a book on MFC so she seems a little bit full of herself. I really think you were robbed of #1
    I’ve seen the hard work girls like yourself, Olivia and the beautifully talented singer Alice Biscuit with that gorgeous English accent that’s obviously not from East End. I’m kind of drawn more creative people having a past background in Photography. Cant get over how many times Olivia has been the bridesmaid and not the bride. She works dam hard bless her and I hope she gets #1 some time soon as it’s speculated she’s leaving in the near future.

  6. Hi Kick,
    I hope this message finds you well. I’m a Journalism student in the city of Los Angeles. Currently I am writing a magazine article about cam girls and would love it if you gave me the opportunity to conduct a brief interview on you for my article. It would help me tremendously.

    Please let me know if you are interested as soon as possible.

    Many thanks,

    Shaira A.

  7. I’m just going to say it like it is from a white born and raised good looking American male. I’ve seen cam girls and in my opinion not only do they need to get a real fucking job but have some dignity. This is why I call you cunts and whores bc let’s face it 90 percent of you are not married and the ones they are probably have some chump of a man. I say fuck em in the ass then throw em in the gutter. Pathetic. Sex sales but mostly for the weak. If I pay I sure am hell going to have the real thing. Too many losers in this world I mean really think about it. And a mini celebrity social media. Lol ok so what happens when the girl is 40 and everything is hanging low. Where are the fan base then if it’s not about pornstar and sex. Give me a fucking break loser. I’m glad I didn’t read your 50 cent article. Literally

  8. This article was a bit of an eye-opener. I’ve had a quite a bit of experience with Romanian-based MFC models and until I read your article I wasn’t quite sure why RO was such a hotspot for studio-based cam-girls. Now it all makes sense: These “studios” are most likely as you said, fronts for being monetary wash-rooms. Most RO models that I have seen are nothing short of extraordinarily beautiful; it’s a sad if not insane reality that all this “talent” is being taken advantage of if not outright abused. And it certainly doesn’t hurt that RO’s economy is in the tank and has been for some time. Even Anthony Bourdain on his trip to Bucharest was a near-victim of the typical “gypsy mentality” that pervades that region – which is to say if you’re not on-point you’ll quickly see your money disappear.

    However it all makes sense now: Nearly every RO-based model I’ve interacted with seemed to be following a script in their initial behavior. They’re very on-point about making initial contact, sending PM’s to new users and doing everything they can to keep visitors in their room. North American models (US, Canada) are far more lax and less structured in their dealings with visitors and, you see far fewer studio-based models.

    What I like about MFC – or any other valid camsite, is that for the girls it [can] provide for complete independence; a way to use their god-given genetics on their own terms. It’s private, anonymous, and unless the model is silly enough to divulge her actual name and location 100% safe from predators and stalkers. Commercial-print models and actors never have that level of security or independence and, they never work on their own schedule, the clients and their agent is in total control of when and how often they work.

    To MFC’s credit, they do have a good reputation both for protecting models from troublesome members and, tossing out models who attempt to game the system and abuse otherwise unsuspecting members. It’s certainly not perfect but from my own experience if there’s a complaint they seem to follow up quickly and without recourse.

    You might be wondering why my commentary is so detailed about the inner workings of cam models and their behavior. At one point a business partner and I were considering creating our own cam-site, which at the time I knew NOTHING about at all. So I started researching the most successful sites – which turns out to be MFC, hence that’s how I found you eventually.

    We abandoned the idea of starting our own site mainly because it would be a nightmare to manage all the infrastructure, not to mention the needs of the models, but I’m constantly impressed with how the technology has evolved and, the fact that if MFC didn’t exist women like yourself simply wouldn’t have this awesome independent career path.

    Cheers.

  9. MFC’s Wiki says it’s not a porn site? I read their pages, the data on the open web… I’m a retired Las Vegas Video Conferencing Producer and Software developer. I started as a studio, in 1999, with Streamray, Inc. @70/30… I made great money as a webmaster intially while my wife cammed until we formed Xtreme Broadband, LLC and sold our software and company. The way it works is like this, as far as what is not porn (we call it mainstream) and what is porn. On MFC you will see a link that says, “2257” and all porn companies must brand their domains to subject themselves to federal statutes governing what is permissable and illegal re: broadcasting on the world wide web. MFC also says there “is no sheriff…” whereas they and their model/broadcasters are policed by individuals such as myself who collect data on adult and mainstream domains. My companies have always had an open door policy with the FBI to track illegal activity across the globe. I see tons of drug use and offensive occurances on MFC that violate the 2257/18 but seldom do I report these things to MFC because there attitude towards such behaviors is stated in their Wiki. My objective in monitoring Jasmin, MFC and other is to monitor the chats, profiles, spending patterns and user activity.

  10. I love this. lol I just joined MFC not too long ago and am still not making “good money” but am enjoying it a whole bunch. Even explaining it to my closest friends makes me feel as if they don’t believe me and I am just acting out in desperation for money. I truly do enjoy camming it really helps me explore my sexuality which is so intriguing to me and the people you meet on MFC are very different than most people would think. Great article!!

  11. Kickaz, you’re obviously an intelligent woman; however, you’re either willfully blind to the dark side of MFC and other camming sites (for models as well as members) or you’re in denial because it doesn’t fit your notion of what camming is like. Just as other models who view camming in positive terms you have no choice but to say what you say. And, by doing so, you’re doing the exact same thing you’re accusing mainstream media of doing, it’s just that you’re pro-camming. Neither you nor the article you referred to in your post are doing this complicated subject justice. It’s not as black and white as the media or you would have your readers believe. And the gray can be very disturbing, both for models as well as members.

    Finally, as a top model whose success is dependent upon your burlesque and visual arts skills rather than the public, group or private “cum shows” that many models have to resort to in order to make money (though you’ll have to admit that even you have become more and more risqué with each passing year which has, no doubt, increased your income) you’re hardly in a position to paint an accurate portrait of camming as it exists for many, less fortunate models.

    Kickaz, given your platform to reach many people I wish you’d consider offering a more balanced portrait of camming. It may not serve your pro-camming argument as well but, in my opinion, it would be more intellectually honest. Having said that, to do so would require a great deal of unbiased research.

    Wishing you the best in your future endeavors.

    Tony

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